GORBACHEV AND REAGAN: A MILITARY ALLIANCE AGAINST
A HYPHOTETICAL ALIEN ATTACK
THE FORMER SOVIET PREMIER, INTERVIEWED BY AN ITALIAN TELEVISION
HOST, PROVIDES FURTHER DETAILS ON THE
by Luca Scantamburlo
Last June 23, during the press conference of the first day of the
international seminar entitled Media
between Citizens and Power taken place in San Servolo
Island in the Venetian Lagoon, by the congress centre of the Venice
Province, the ex Soviet premier Michail
Sergeevich Gorbachev answered to some tens of national and
local press correspondents. The international seminar (from 23 until
24 June 2006) was supported by the Venice Province and by the World
Political Forum founded by Gorbachev.
On that occasion I was the correspondent for the Gruppo
Editoriale Olimpia, Italian publisher of the magazines Tecnologia&Difesa
Notiziario, and I was able to ask leave to speak by the
press conference. My question put to the great Russian politician
was unusual for a statesman: it concerned some public declarations
by Ronald Reagan about the possibility of ?an alien threat from
outside this world? to the Earth coming from ?another planet?,
eventuality that would help all the men to recognize the common bond
which ?unites all the members of the humanity? (speechs in front of
a high school in Maryland on December 4, 1985, and in front of the
General Assembly of the United Nations during the Forty-second
Session on September 21, 1987).
During my interrogative the ex premier Gorbachev interrupted
me and, referring to Reagan, said: ?Among other things he once
talked about it with me as well?; so straight away I replyed: ?In
Geneva, in 1985?, without denial from Gorbachev to whom I finally
asked a comment about the baffling declarations released last year
(September 2005) at the Toronto University by Paul
Hellyer, ex Canadian Minister of Defense (see the article
by Maurizio Molinari for the Italian newspaper La
Stampa, November 26, 2005, page 10). Hellyer talked about
the possibility of an imminent ?intergalactic war? because of that
the United States of America would get ready by secret.
Although the Gorbachev?s answer was: ?we are in a range of
hypotheses? and he concentrated on ?the more serious? cometary and
asteroidal threat of the so-called NEOs (against that we could use a
?reduced armament of nuclear defense?, kept only for that), his
recent confirmation on a particular moment of the discussion with
Reagan is remarkable.
But why did Reagan talk to Gorbachev in private about an
alien threat from other species? We were still waiting for a precise
answer and some weeks ago unexpectedly we had some further details
on the Genevan summit taken place in November 1985. On 29 October Fabio Fazio, an Italian
presenter of RAI TRE (one
of the State channels in Italy), has hosted Gorbachev during his
The interview to the famous statesman has lasted half an
hour: at the end, with a bit of embarrassament, Fabio Fazio has
asked him about the discussions had with Reagan during the 1980s,
with reference to the UFOs. The Italian presenter has explained to
Gorbachev that someone (perhaps some spectator at home, I suppose)
had written to him to know about it. Regarding my question already
put to the former Soviet premier on the same subject, Gorbachev has
had once again the opportunity to answer with more quiet; and
moreover the question was less specific than mine. Therefore more
So the ex Soviet premier recalled that moment with
TRE, show Che
che fa, 10-29-2006
; simultaneous translation from Russian into Italian by a female
voice over; the following trascription is my translation into
Gorbaciov: ?It was
the first meeting and our conversations were very difficult.
Particularly that conversation began from the fact he named me ?a
very stubborn Bolshevik? and I defined him with the appellative of
Fazio [smiling] : ?Kind. Nice..?
[ laughes and applauses from the public ].
Gorbaciov: ?But in a couple of days we went a long way.
So much to get to a conclusive document where there was written
that we, the Presidents, believed the nuclear warfare was not
acceptable because they would have not been winners. ?
Fazio: ?The end of Cold War, practically.?
Gorbaciov: ?Almost. No! It still needs a little time. As
regards the dialogue, at that time it was a dialogue very
difficult because absolutely we could not to meet us halfway. And
I remember: during a walk by the villa garden where we met the
President Reagan stopped and said: - But, listen to me President
Gorbachev. If now, from the Space, we were attacked, would we put
ourself together? Would we joint? ? I answered to him: - I do not
know what you think about but I propose to put ourself together,
to joint the forces? [?]
[ applauses from the public ].
The recent Gorbachev?s recollection is really meaningful and
confirms what Zecharia Sitchin,
the well-known Russian historian who lives in New York , wrote on
his essay Genesis Revisited
(1991), chapter 13: it is likely that the new era of understanding,
trust and co-operation was born also because there was an alien
threat to all the nations of the Earth.
And maybe it does still exist.
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