GORBACHEV AND REAGAN: A MILITARY ALLIANCE AGAINST
A HYPHOTETICAL ALIEN ATTACK
THE FORMER SOVIET PREMIER, INTERVIEWED BY AN ITALIAN TELEVISION HOST, PROVIDES FURTHER DETAILS ON THE GENEVAN SUMMIT
by Luca
Scantamburlo
Last June 23, during the press conference of the
first
day of the international seminar entitled Media between
Citizens and
Power taken place in San Servolo Island in the Venetian
Lagoon, by the
congress centre of the Venice Province, the ex Soviet premier Michail
Sergeevich Gorbachev answered to some tens of national and
local press
correspondents. The international seminar (from 23 until 24 June 2006)
was supported by the Venice Province and by the World Political Forum
founded by Gorbachev.
On that occasion I was the
correspondent for the Gruppo Editoriale Olimpia, Italian publisher of
the magazines Tecnologia&Difesa
and UFO
Notiziario, and I was able
to ask leave to speak by the press conference. My question put to the
great Russian politician was unusual for a statesman: it concerned some
public declarations by Ronald Reagan about the possibility of “an alien
threat from outside this world” to the Earth coming from “another
planet”, eventuality that would help all the men to recognize the
common bond which “unites all the members of the humanity” (speechs in
front of a high school in Maryland on December 4, 1985, and in front of
the General Assembly of the United Nations during the Forty-second
Session on September 21, 1987).
During my interrogative
the ex premier Gorbachev interrupted me and, referring to Reagan, said:
“Among other things he once talked about it with me as well”; so
straight away I replyed: “In Geneva, in 1985”, without denial from
Gorbachev to whom I finally asked a comment about the baffling
declarations released last year (September 2005) at the Toronto
University by Paul
Hellyer, ex Canadian Minister of Defense (see the
article by Maurizio Molinari for the Italian newspaper La Stampa,
November 26, 2005, page 10). Hellyer talked about the possibility of an
imminent “intergalactic war” because of that the United States of
America would get ready by secret.
Although the
Gorbachev’s answer was: “we are in a range of hypotheses” and he
concentrated on “the more serious” cometary and asteroidal threat of
the so-called NEOs (against that we could use a “reduced armament of
nuclear defense”, kept only for that), his recent confirmation on a
particular moment of the discussion with Reagan is remarkable.
But why did Reagan talk to Gorbachev in private about an alien threat
from other species? We were still waiting for a precise answer and some
weeks ago unexpectedly we had some further details on the Genevan
summit taken place in November 1985. On 29 October Fabio Fazio, an
Italian presenter of RAI
TRE (one of the State channels in Italy), has
hosted Gorbachev during his evening show.
The interview to the
famous statesman has lasted half an hour: at the end, with a bit of
embarrassament, Fabio Fazio has asked him about the discussions had
with Reagan during the 1980s, with reference to the UFOs. The Italian
presenter has explained to Gorbachev that someone (perhaps some
spectator at home, I suppose) had written to him to know about it.
Regarding my question already put to the former Soviet premier on the
same subject, Gorbachev has had once again the opportunity to answer
with more quiet; and moreover the question was less specific than mine.
Therefore more manageable.
So the ex Soviet premier recalled that moment with
seriousness:
Channel
RAI TRE, show Che
tempo che fa,
10-29-2006 ; simultaneous translation from Russian into Italian by a
female voice over; the following trascription is my translation into
English:
Gorbaciov:
“It was the first meeting and our conversations were very difficult.
Particularly that conversation began from the fact he named me ‘a very
stubborn Bolshevik’ and I defined him with the appellative of
‘dinosaur’.
Fazio [smiling] : “Kind. Nice..”
[ laughes and applauses from the public ].
Gorbaciov:
“But in a couple of days we went a long way. So much to get to a
conclusive document where there was written that we, the Presidents,
believed the nuclear warfare was not acceptable because they would have
not been winners. ”
Fazio: “The end of Cold War, practically.”
Gorbaciov:
“Almost. No! It still needs a little time. As regards the dialogue, at
that time it was a dialogue very difficult because absolutely we could
not to meet us halfway. And I remember: during a walk by the villa
garden where we met the President Reagan stopped and said: - But,
listen to me President Gorbachev. If now, from the Space, we were
attacked, would we put ourself together? Would we joint? – I answered
to him: - I do not know what you think about but I propose to put
ourself together, to joint the forces” […]
[ applauses from the public ].
The
recent Gorbachev’s recollection is really meaningful and confirms what
Zecharia Sitchin,
the well-known Russian historian who lives in New
York , wrote on his essay Genesis
Revisited (1991), chapter 13: it is
likely that the new era of understanding, trust and co-operation was
born also because there was an alien threat to all the nations of the
Earth.
And maybe it does still exist.
